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For every 5 hunters I meet in 1v1 world PvP, I beat 4 of them (and I am NOT very good at PvP). A good hunter will be able to beat a Prot Paladin, but 80% aren’t that good. Shield throw to daze the hunter and pet,lose the distae with the hunter, sealjudge, throw in a HoJ, HoR, a few swings, Judge, HoR, HoW. That kills 80% of the hunters I have run into. If the hunter gets the drop on you and drains your mana, youan lose pretty easily, but I always have a few mana pots on me for emergeies.
Well, I’m a prot pally… and Ian beat anything eept a healer. Ian even beat lks if they’re dumb enough to not use Felhunter. ase in point; I was attked by an enhae shaman, a ret paladin and a rogue the other day and beat all 3, then ate and drank and stood up ready to beat them all again. Granted, they wererap, but Prot is not to be messed with by the unwary any more.
After 3.0 but pre-Wrath I had quite a bit of fun dueling guild members before and after runs as Holy. The onlylass I found that absolutelyould not beat was our damned priest. Manaburn has to be the most annoying spell EVAR!1!1 He beat me soundly the first time I fought him. After I knew what to expt we would just go on and on forever. A few times ending upaelling the duel due to being too far away from the flag from s or Fears. Everything else was pretty mh a breeze. Holy Shk seems to be so buffed now I pretty mh just hit that as soonD is up. I am very interested in trying Prot though. It’s been a long time but I hear nothing but good.

A good Rogue won’t lose to a Prottion Paladin. It’s very easy to just keep moving bk and forth to and from the Paladin and getting the openers again and again until he is dead. A rogue that just stands there and tries to go toe to toe with the Paladin, yeah, he’ll die from the Shieldharges.
A bad rogue will outright lose to a prot pally. Holy shield alone will likely do more damage than the rogue does. A good one though.. It’s usually a stupidly long battle with no winner. You do very little damage, he bleeds you, you stun or bubble to heal. Repeat for 10 minutes.

Eks wrote:
Prot Pally is a LOT better in PvP than it was before the pah. We still have 0 resiliee unless we mix gear as another er stated, but we put out a lot more damage than we used to and and have even better ability to survive. The best way to beat a Prot Paladin is to drain his mana any way youan. Rogues used to be the bane of the Prot Paladin, but now if they have equal gear it is a fair fight sie the Paladinan get out of stunlks pretty easily with several different trks now. Warlks are still tough, and shadow priests and huntersan be annoying, though they are beatable.
jeromesimina wrote:Rogues used to be the bane of the Prot Paladin I never PvPd mh with my Paladin, but I think I missed something in thislaim. My Paladin (as Prot) is the onlyharter I’ve never had issues with a Rogue. Ever. And I’m not just talking about random greenlad Rogues, I mean Arena geared Rogues too. Yea, stupidly long and meaningless fights, but I never had any real issues (hey, I’m Prot, it would have been stupidly long anyway =). Justurious if Rogues beating Prot Palys really was the norm and I somehow was exempt lol, or what Sie the pah and new abilities though, I haven’t reallyome ross any Rogues at all, so I’murious about something: just how bad is their new Dismantle ability for usWarriors? I’ve heard various people, even Rogues,omplaining that it’s stupidly OP, but Ian’tomment personally as I’ve not eountered it yet.

Elemental you should be using flametongue as it ales with spell damage like you said. Enhaement uses Windfury bause it ales with Attk Power whh makes it better than flametongue in Enhaementase.
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Windfury Totem Link to thread that explains everything about windfury totem. Still on the main page too >_< Read it over. Explains the windfury totem to a T and you will better understand it's effts and how it affts other buffs.
yup, someone said youan only have one temporary and one permanent efft on a weapon. So if a rogue is using poisons, and I assume a warrior using sharpening stones it won’t work. Ehantments are pemanent buffs, so they are okay.
Use Gre of Air anyway, better than WF for almost alllasses.
I think fury warriors are the onlylass that benefits A LOT from WF totem. Everyone else, Gre of Air or Wrath of Air.
It’s the Armsfury ( hybrid) that benefits THE MOST from WF totem , fury wars and the rest of meleean use it , but gre of air does same or even better ;P

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when to use this thing? I tried it on the warlks for the bloodsails east of booty bay. It didn’t seem to do anything. I think they destroyed it. Though I’ll admit I didn’thk theombat log and see if it did anything. In the end I justharged the warlk, did an earth shk, stormstrike, and he was pretty mh dead after that. if he was lky he’d get one shadow bolt in. so what are some good uses for this totem?
One thing to keep in mind, ii, the bloodsail guysan have imps…grounding totems will eat the imp’s fireballs too.

I have beenurious about the shamanlass for some time and have finally dided to give it a try. I have little knowledge of them and have some questions for you more experieed with them So here are the questions that I am needing help with at the moment. Would he get more use out of a 2h or dual wielding? Does stormstrike work if your not dual wielding? Does weapon speed matter for shamans?
I’m kind of assuming you’re doing an Enhaement sp. Othersan answer your questions moreompetently, and Ian’t answer the question about Stormstrike at all bause I’m ElementalResto, but Ian say this mh:

Just wanted to say thanks for the great information. Provided everything I was looking for and then some. At the moment I have been using a staff sie hean’t use any other 2handers right now. I will swih him over two a 1h and shield and see if he gets better results. Thanks again for the adve!
No, you do not get flurry from any magalrits. It’s only melee attkrits that give you flurry. I have no idea about flametonguerits though…:X
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I believe that Flametongue does use spellrit, not meleerit. It shouldn’t trigger Flurry, though – despite what it says, it only triggers off meleerits, not spellrits (shks, e).
i dont think it would pr elemental fus, im elemental and iveritted a flametongue and it hasnt poc’d it is a spell dmgrit not an tual spell beenast is how i understand it
It doesn`t pr elemental fus not bause it`s melee or magal. It stands away from both – it`s weapon ehantment. For example if you get any weapon ehanting poisons sh as wowheadom?item=31535 from qs and u use it, it will reple the last weapon ehantment (rkbiter, flamet, frost or wf). >>> Have anyone heard that rogues have spells or magal effts? :p

obviously the demon form will have powerful abilities. seeing as it doesn’t last long and has aD it’ll obviously have powerful attks Cs or something along those lines
I think thesehangesould very well be true. Everyone agrees that WoW is based on a rk-paper-issor formula. Would be ne to shuffe those realtionshs around a bit. Maybe lks will own rogues, but mages will own lks (for example). Would be a breath of fresh air for the game, IMO. Link to this ing from San Fraio,A Jun 13th 2008 5:33pm Edited: Jun 13th 2008 5:44pm : Logged Reply to this Ritster55 Dent
It’s kinda funny that were getting a demon form i remember talking about this to a freind before this was annoned “dude wouldent it be sweeet to have like a dreadlord transformation or something” Oh yeah and why is soul link getting nerfed it use to give 5% extra damage to theaster and the pet?
Ritster wrote:Oh yeah and why is soul link getting nerfed it use to give 5% extra damage to theaster and the pet? Bause right now it’s way too nessary powerful for PvP. Any Warlk not taking it right now is either (1.) having fun rewing around in BG’s or (2.) out to prove something. So instead of pigeonholing Warlks into one spif build for PvP like they are now, Blizzard is trying to give you more options by making all three individual builds stand on their own. The thing is, I’m not sure that theyan do that without Soul Link, and I think they they’re not sure theyan either, whh is why Soul Link got nerfed and shuffled to the top of the Demonology dk where it will beheaply and easily available for any Warlk build withoutompromising builds for the most part. I think it would be better for you guys if they just made Soul Link trainable, perhaps nerfing it just a little more toompensate, though that may or may not be nessary.

RPZ wrote:Browsing through the lists, it seems like most of the 51-point talents are PvP-oriented (or 5-man oriented; they most likely aren’t going to be raiding talents unless something majorhanges in WotLK dungeons). That’s probably a fairly smart designhoe for Blizz, sie it gives you more power while leveling but means that spialized raiding builds are going to be pretty wimpy in PvP, as most of them are going to look something like theurrent 02140 build. My take on this is that we won’t really know whether the talents are PvE oriented until we know a bit more on the skills and abilities of the mobsbosses. Itould be that a talent that superfialy looks to be PvP-onlyould turn out to be something that will end up being a we preventer when we start going into WotLK instaes.
i still think that demon formould turn out to be very pve and pvp based for us depending on how mh damage it does… though regardless of if it is or isn’t, simply by looking at the benefits gained to and from our pets through being like ##50## Iould see alot of ‘hunter like beastmastery’ warlksoming out as top dps due to the bonuses gained from the pets (espially the imp..) EDIT I was having a dent look through the available sps, 50021 looks VERY viable, so does 02150… though if you’d go fireshadow or both is hard to say.

I don’t see why everyone is so obssessed over Demon Form. The only use for this spell is if your going up against a burst team and then youanlk an “OH NOES” button to save yourself, but seriously, what burst team targets the demo lk? With the extra 10 talent points and Soul Link pushed to a Tier 3 talent, youan go full affltion and still pk up the survivabilty of soul link. Damn! UA to prevent dispells, better drains, iHoT, Atrity, and Soul Depeletion to drain even more mana. Also with the new spell Haunt, you don’t need that “OH NOES” button sie theres no way your gonna be downed. Link to this Jun 13th 2008 2:53pm : Logged Reply to this Jenovaomegaholar2480 Dent

First timesovering your own bk is always fun, if it would of been me as the druid, i would probably have been prowled behind you ready to strike as opposed to trying to outspell you.
Is there a way Ian make my imp attk when iast a spell on an enemy. It gets so annoying having tolk my spell and my imps attks every time. Link to this 1 reply Aug 12th 2008 2:18pm : Logged Reply to this Ryeno8 Dent
Canreate a mro like petattk cast Shadow Bolt, or whatever you start with. Link to this 0 Messages skped by filter settings, 2 displayed.Thread Index New Subjt Reply to this 1 Reply (Seah Forums) Forum by ZAM Network   v2.7 Allakhazam’s Forums >World of Waraftlass Diussions >Warlk >Help with attking pets opy; • ZAM Store • About ZAM • Site FAQ • Premium • Advertise Someontent is lensed under the GNU Free Dumentation Lense • Privy Poly • Terms of Serve
I have been leaning heavily on my VoidWalker sie level 10. I justan’t seem to let the blue blob of derision go. I have rently been playing around with the idea of using the Felhunter or Scubus. I see many people using these two pets in their rampages ross the Azerothian landapes. Ok so my question is, what the hk to you guys do with these pets? How do you use them? Sie they don’t have Torment they don’t hold hate for anything. I am affltion spced,harter is Moontohed on Sisters of Elune. Just looking for some hints. If you think I should use some other pet feel free to that too.

not really my first brush if you want toount being ganked by 70′s in southshore lol but.. I just started playing a lk not very long ago as an alt and something different from my main whh is a healer. My lk is 42urrently and I have been doing the quests over in dustwallow marshtheramore this past weekend. I was in the middle of doing the deserter quests, you know the one with the quk respawn rates? Yea so I’m at the foot of the tower ready to go in when I note a starfire out of nowhere. My VW is tanking two mobs in the meantime when I spin around and see this lvl 45+ druid I think it was 49 but it happened so quk I’m not sure; lked onto me. At first I figured I was dead sie I’m in the middle of all this so I just stood there like a fool while he pumped me full of wrath two more times. Initially I was in the healer mindset where I’m not really going to do mh to this person. Than it all kks in… It was truly a beautiful thing to me. I hit the druid with myorruption, ampurseCOA, SL immolate and than the pr kks in for a free SB That SBrits this poor druid and they realize ohrap I better high tail it, at this point they shift to travel form run 10 steps when I throw my drain soul in there and they fall over dead lol (thanks for the 9 Honor points hah) It was a first for me tually being able to defend myself and win a fight I never started let alone even think of starting a fight. Ended up having a few moreonfrontations and losing one of them when I was jumped by 2 in the middle of a fight. Nothing new to share really I’m sure all you warlks out there been there done that but I wanted to share my fun times. Link to this 1 reply Aug 12th 2008 11:33pm : Logged Reply to this Lobotomize243 Default